I Am A Sasquatch · Jun 06, 2005, 07:15 PM // 19:15

I heard the prima guide just came out. I was wondering if it was worth the 20$ to buy it. I know for the most part forums are better, but strategy guides are good for when on the can. However, in past experiences with MMOs (like FFXI) I found the guides to be worthless and not helpful at all, almost as if the creators didnt even play the game.

Algren Cole · Jun 06, 2005, 07:16 PM // 19:16

I'm against all guides of any kind for any game.....

salatious · Jun 06, 2005, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Well i got this last weekend and i love it. it will tell you were all the collectors are and the paths you can walk to get to other areas for farming... Its well woth the price if you ask me and the fold out map is great.

eA-Zaku · Jun 06, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Is there anything that tells you what skills can be gained from quests? So that I don't have to waste a skill point on it. It would suck if I bought Balthazar's Aura from Droknar's Forge and then found out there was a quest that would give me the Aura just outside of town

snepp · Jun 06, 2005, 07:20 PM // 19:20

The guide is worth the map, that's about it, IMHO.

Fye Duron · Jun 06, 2005, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I will take a look at it my self, but I really don't think that it will have too much that I don't already know in it.I already have my farming spot, but I would see if they say a better one. I really doubt it since I make about 3-6k in 45min or so. Also the guide will never be up to date. Think of how many things have changed in the month that the game has been out.

salatious · Jun 06, 2005, 07:24 PM // 19:24

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

Is there anything that tells you what skills can be gained from quests? So that I don't have to waste a skill point on it. It would suck if I bought Balthazar's Aura from Droknar's Forge and then found out there was a quest that would give me the Aura just outside of town

yes you can view the skill you want in the book and it will tell you severl places to get it. either by mission/skill trainer/capture

eA-Zaku · Jun 06, 2005, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Ok, thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for.

I'm definitely going to buy it

salatious · Jun 06, 2005, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by Fye Duron

I will take a look at it my self, but I really don't think that it will have too much that I don't already know in it.I already have my farming spot, but I would see if they say a better one. I really doubt it since I make about 3-6k in 45min or so. Also the guide will never be up to date. Think of how many things have changed in the month that the game has been out.

what do you think has changed in the game in months that would outdate the book? i havent seen anything yet that has changed that is not in the book and im at "the wild" so i cant say if anything is outdated in the book past that...

the book has maps for every area in the game and where every collectors/critters/NPC are and everywhere i have been they have been right were they said they would be.. there are also alot of areas that you dont get missions for and would never know there there withought walking to it... that is why i like the book so much because this way i dont really miss anything even though there is no mission i need there i always travel for better farming spots and collectors

relientK_fan · Jun 06, 2005, 07:36 PM // 19:36

The guide can also be updated online, so, it will never be out of date. Just check out the Prima website.

Algren Cole · Jun 06, 2005, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by salatious

what do you think has changed in the game in months that would outdate the book? i havent seen anything yet that has changed that is not in the book and im at "the wild" so i cant say if anything is outdated in the book past that...

the book has maps for every area in the game and where every collectors/critters/NPC are and everywhere i have been they have been right were they said they would be..

this doesn't ruin the game for you? isn't the majority of the gaming experience attained from NOT knowing where everything is...and NOT knowing exactly what to do at all times because you read it in some book?

eA-Zaku · Jun 06, 2005, 07:42 PM // 19:42

There will always be people who intentionally spoil it for themselves because they LIKE IT THAT WAY. Even if that's not the case, they can do whatever the hell they want.

I, for one, am glad I played (almost) through the whole game without too many spoilers. Although the Prima guide MAY hold your hand through the whole game, doesn't mean you have to do it that way. I am only buying it for portable maps, I can lend it to anyone who needs it for any reason, and it has comprehensive skill information that cannot be found elsewhere, such as skills from quest rewards.

If you were totally correct, and strategy guides are stupid and lame and only idiots use them, then why is Prima still in business?

Sierra · Jun 06, 2005, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

If you were totally correct, and strategy guides are stupid and lame and only idiots use them, then why is Prima still in business?

Because there are a lot of idiots? No, I'm kidding. I usually buy guides for games. Not because I really need them, but because it's more of a collector item for me . . bonuses like pretty pictures and maps. When I can't feed my obsession and actually play the game, then I look at the book. Yes, I am sad and I admit it.

Bingley Joe · Jun 06, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

If you were totally correct, and strategy guides are stupid and lame and only idiots use them, then why is Prima still in business?

Hmm.. well I, for one, am completely surrounded by idiots. I'm thinking their massive population could easily keep an operation like Prima going...

/jk. I'll definitely be buying the guide soonish. As the OP mentioned: it's good for on the can

dargon · Jun 06, 2005, 10:06 PM // 22:06

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Originally Posted by salatious

what do you think has changed in the game in months that would outdate the book? i havent seen anything yet that has changed that is not in the book and im at "the wild" so i cant say if anything is outdated in the book past that...

One thing thats already outdated in the book is the location you can capture Barrage, Markis isn't mentioned, and to my knowledge, the mobs listed nolonger have it

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Originally Posted by relientK_fan

The guide can also be updated online, so, it will never be out of date. Just check out the Prima website.

Heh, yeah it can be updated, for an additional $9.99 for each update. I'm sorry but if you've paid for the book, you should be able to download the updates for free (just include a code in the book that gets tied to an email), afterall, you don't see White Wolf or TSR charging for any errata that's released, just for new complete versions of the book.

Ork Pride · Jun 06, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13

name 1 good spot?

or teh 1 u use

dansamy · Jun 06, 2005, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

this doesn't ruin the game for you? isn't the majority of the gaming experience attained from NOT knowing where everything is...and NOT knowing exactly what to do at all times because you read it in some book?

Well, considering that one of my characters had already followed the missions/storyline to its conclusion before the guide hit the store shelves, NO. Now, I have a handy reference for my other character and for my husband's characters.

Fye Duron · Jun 06, 2005, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by salatious

what do you think has changed in the game in months that would outdate the book? i havent seen anything yet that has changed that is not in the book and im at "the wild" so i cant say if anything is outdated in the book past that...

First thing I was not saying there was just a bunch of game altering changes that would completely Out Date the guide, but there have been changes, and on top of that the first "free" major update/new area is about to come out. Do you think that area will be in the book? no. Are you going to pay another $10 on top of the $20 you already spent to get the update that will fallow? Change is constant,and never ending especially in the on line game world. The map is about the only thing that I would like out of it

LadyCallipyge · Jun 06, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11

But the print is so tiny!

Maps are good.

Jun 06, 2005, 07:15 PM // 19:15	#1
I Am A Sasquatch Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: CT Guild: Lost Order Profession: W/R	Opinion on the Prima Guide I heard the prima guide just came out. I was wondering if it was worth the 20$ to buy it. I know for the most part forums are better, but strategy guides are good for when on the can. However, in past experiences with MMOs (like FFXI) I found the guides to be worthless and not helpful at all, almost as if the creators didnt even play the game.

Jun 06, 2005, 07:16 PM // 19:16	#2
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	I'm against all guides of any kind for any game.....

Jun 06, 2005, 07:17 PM // 19:17	#3
salatious Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Richmond, Va Guild: Looking for a better Guild Profession: E/Mo	Well i got this last weekend and i love it. it will tell you were all the collectors are and the paths you can walk to get to other areas for farming... Its well woth the price if you ask me and the fold out map is great.

Jun 06, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19	#4
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Is there anything that tells you what skills can be gained from quests? So that I don't have to waste a skill point on it. It would suck if I bought Balthazar's Aura from Droknar's Forge and then found out there was a quest that would give me the Aura just outside of town

Jun 06, 2005, 07:20 PM // 19:20	#5
snepp Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: E/Mo	The guide is worth the map, that's about it, IMHO.

Jun 06, 2005, 07:23 PM // 19:23	#6
Fye Duron Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chico, CA, USA Guild: Dragon Fang	I will take a look at it my self, but I really don't think that it will have too much that I don't already know in it.I already have my farming spot, but I would see if they say a better one. I really doubt it since I make about 3-6k in 45min or so. Also the guide will never be up to date. Think of how many things have changed in the month that the game has been out.

Jun 06, 2005, 07:28 PM // 19:28	#8
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Ok, thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. I'm definitely going to buy it

Jun 06, 2005, 07:36 PM // 19:36	#10
relientK_fan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere, Nowhere Guild: Sith Overlords[SO] Profession: W/Mo	The guide can also be updated online, so, it will never be out of date. Just check out the Prima website.

Jun 06, 2005, 07:42 PM // 19:42	#12
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	There will always be people who intentionally spoil it for themselves because they LIKE IT THAT WAY. Even if that's not the case, they can do whatever the hell they want. I, for one, am glad I played (almost) through the whole game without too many spoilers. Although the Prima guide MAY hold your hand through the whole game, doesn't mean you have to do it that way. I am only buying it for portable maps, I can lend it to anyone who needs it for any reason, and it has comprehensive skill information that cannot be found elsewhere, such as skills from quest rewards. If you were totally correct, and strategy guides are stupid and lame and only idiots use them, then why is Prima still in business?

Jun 06, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#16
Ork Pride Banned Join Date: May 2005	name 1 good spot? or teh 1 u use

Jun 06, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11	#19
LadyCallipyge Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	But the print is so tiny! Maps are good.